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直播吧篮球比分188(「键盘侠」巴特勒横扫森林狼队内赛怼天怼地纯爷们？)

更新时间：2022-10-27 06:39:35

直播吧10月11日讯根据Woj报道，一直公开对队友的懒散作风表示不满，并要求转会的森林狼球星吉米-巴特勒，在最近的一次队内训练中高调亮相，不仅怼教练怼队友，还在队内训练赛中带领三阵板凳球员横扫一阵主力，而后对教练组大喷垃圾话"你们tm没我不行"，着实把这次转会风波推向了高潮。围绕着这个精彩的话题，美国著名键盘侠聚集地Reddit讨论热烈。摘录一些有趣或高赞数的评论如下：

【帖子一】根据ESPN最新的采访报导，巴特勒承认他有时候对待队友确实有些严苛，尤其是唐斯。但他在本周三告诉外界，是唐斯先用垃圾话挑衅他，然后他才做出回击的。“我是不是对他（唐斯）太严格了？是的，但这就是我的风格”，巴特勒说，“我不是队里实力最强的球员。谁最有实力？唐斯；谁有上帝赋予的天赋？维金斯；谁打球最努力？我！我打球向来努力，把每一天都当作最后一天去对待，努力训练，努力打比赛。这是我的激情使然，每个人的领导方式不同，但努力打球是我向队友展现我领导力的方式。”

巴特勒的不满很大一部分源于他认为球队里并不是每个人都渴望胜利。“我认为很多人都看不到这一点”，巴特勒说，“我不会指名道姓。老实告诉你，如果你的心思不在赢球上，别人是看得出来的。我们是在打仗，你要是吊儿郎当，那你我之间就有代沟。矛盾就源于此。”

巴特勒早些时候出席了森林狼的队内训练，但似乎并没有解决他和球队之间的矛盾。“矛盾没有解决”，巴特勒告诉主持人，“让我们诚实一些。”

主持人问巴特勒是否有可能解决，巴特勒回答：“概率总是有的。但你问我的感受？不可能。”

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itzReborn 3.5k points 16 hours ago

I mean he not wrong

我想说的是，巴特勒又没做错

Derrick Rose jeric13xd 2.3k points 16 hours ago

Dude worked hard from being the last guy on our bench to an All-NBA caliber player

公牛罗斯球迷：这哥们打球很拼，从咱们队当年的板凳末尾一路练级成为了今天的全明星。

Bulls BUD7993 522 points 15 hours ago

Dude went junior college to All-NBA caliber player.

公牛球迷：这哥们从大学一路练级成为了今天的全明星。

Sarah-Slayz 138 points 10 hours ago

Dude went from an infant to an All-NBA caliber player.

这哥们从娘胎一路练级成为了今天的全明星。

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VenerableHate 592 points 16 hours ago

Would love to see him make that last leap to MVP, would be such a good inspiration to see a guy make the full grind up the way to MVP.

很想看他能一路飞跃，并最终成为MVP。如果像他这样咬碎钢牙的男人最后能当上MVP，那整个故事就太励志了。

phishyreefer 223 points 15 hours ago

He and Westbrook would destroy

他和威少两个对上估计要炸

YourCummyBear 184 points 15 hours ago

Those mentalities together lol.

这俩人的小宇宙要是碰到一块，哈哈。

Bucks mastersergeant98 129 points 14 hours ago

Be like Goku and Vegeta honestly

雄鹿球迷：讲真，估计就像悟空碰上贝吉塔。

rectalrocket42 245 points 13 hours ago

More like Vegeta and Vegeta honestly

讲真，更像贝吉塔碰上贝吉塔。

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Bulls KredditH 275 points 15 hours ago

Imagine you're Thibs.

You're the most intense coach in the league. You're so obsessed with winning that game in the moment that you even play guys too many minutes once the game is clearly decided. You have hard practices, demand tip-top conditioning, and have won 50 games almost every year of your coaching career.

Now you have this guy with a rare, inspired work ethic. He's a guy you've had on your team since your second year coaching in the league. He's the crazy player who is just as devoted and intense as you are, and then you even manage to trade for him, giving up some good players, so he can help you take a step toward the playoffs.

Now he suddenly wants out after you guys finally make the playoffs? No wonder Thibs looks crazy trying to hope he stays and turning down offers. I'd be going crazy too trying to get that guy to stay

想象一下，如果你是锡伯杜。

身为联盟中最苛刻的教练之一。你对胜利充满执念，以至于有时候比赛胜负已定，你仍会让一些球员打上很多时间。你对球队的训练很严格，要求队员在健身房也要练到极致，在你执教生涯中几乎每个赛季都能获得50 胜。

现在，你手下有这样一位球员，他拥有罕见的积极态度。在你教练生涯第二年开始，他就在你帐下打球。他是个偏执狂，就和你一样付出一切，自我要求苛刻。后来，你在新球队竟然有幸再次把他交易到你的阵中，虽然代价是换走了几位优秀球员，但再次和你聚首的他帮助你们进入了季后赛，并有机会走得更远。

然而，就在你们好不容易进了一次季后赛之后，他竟然要走？难怪锡伯杜看起来疯了似的希望巴特勒能留队。这锡伯杜要换成我，我也会发疯似的挽留巴特勒的。

firepandas 186 points 14 hours ago

Playing guys too many minutes is not being obsessed with winning; it is being irresponsible. His job is to manage the players effectively and make them function as a cohesive unit. If your zeal causes your best players to be worn out and ragged almost every night, you are not doing your job effectively and you are not maximizing your winning potential.

让球员打那么多时间，并不能用“渴望胜利”来解释，在我看来这叫做“不负责任”。教练的工作是有效地管理调配手下的球员，让他们各尽其职，并形成一个团结的集体。如果你的狂热导致手下的球员每场比赛都精疲力尽，打不出最好的状态，那作为教练你并没有做好你手里的工作，而且没有把球队可以持续赢球的潜力最大化。

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Warriors destined123 402 points 16 hours ago

Man, I really like Jimmy, dudes such a fucking beast.

勇士球迷：兄弟们，我真心喜欢巴特勒，这哥们真tm虎

Malik Sealy onken022 151 points 16 hours ago

Shit me too. I kinda hope he sticks around this season now. KAT and Wigs need an alpha breathing down their neck.

森林狼马利克球迷：我tm也是，现在有点期望巴特勒本赛季能留在森林狼了。小唐和围巾需要这么个大佬每天鞭策他们。

Bulls hv_newaccount 63 points 15 hours ago

What's the pulse of the Wolves's fanbase on this situation right now? It feels like there's an extremely vocal minority shitting on him, but when I checked the Wolves sub earlier it seemed to primarily be the comments praising his work ethic that are getting upvoted. Is it a brigading thing or does the fanbase actually like him?

公牛球迷：所以面对当前这个局面，森林狼球迷的心境到底是怎样的？我总感觉有那么一小股势力在喷巴特勒，但当我逛了一圈森林狼论坛后，发现大多数高赞贴都是在夸巴特勒的职业精神。那些都是五毛贴，还是说他在森林狼球迷中的口碑真的好？

Malik Sealy onken022 144 points 15 hours ago

Honestly, this situation perfectly encapsulates the shit show that is this franchise. It feels like Jimmy is just being a real motherfucker right now and I think we need that. If it leads to the implosion of the team (it won’t) then we weren’t gonna do anything worthwhile anyways.

森林狼马利克球迷：老实讲，这场闹剧完美地概括了森林狼这几年的球队状况。看起来在这起事件中巴特勒扮演了恶人的角色，但我认为森林狼需要这样一场闹剧。如果这场闹剧最终能导致森林狼内部一场大爆炸（但很遗憾不会发生）那倒好，反正本来就有问题，而球队又没采取任何有效措施以改变现状。

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Rockets Texan628 720 points 16 hours ago

I've never seen a guy just shit all over his teammates like Butler has and it's fucking amazing.

火箭球迷：我从没见过任何人像现在的巴特勒一样公然狂怼队友到这个程度的，关键是你还挺佩服这哥们。

Dylkim 464 points 15 hours ago

There’s this guy name Kobe.

从前有个类似的哥们，叫科比。

Rockets MrDenimChicken 94 points 12 hours ago

yeah but this has been so public and and it seems directly shaming the other 2 "stars" on the team.

是没错，不过和科比那时比起来，巴特勒这次已经搞得满城风雨了，而且直接针对的是队里另两位“球星”。

Dylkim 310 points 12 hours ago edited 12 hours ago

Kobe told Smush to not talk to him because he was trash.

Kobe called his entire team charmin soft.

Kobe publicly destroyed Jr Ryder after Ryder talked shit.

Kobe almost fought Shaq after Shaq talked shit.

I honestly believe Kobe and MJ would be far more despised if social media was as relevant back than.

科比曾经让斯马什-帕克闭嘴，因为他打球垃圾

科比曾经喷整支球队打得像卫生纸一样软

科比曾经在以赛亚-莱德跟他喷垃圾话之后，和他公开1对1单挑打爆了他

科比在沙克和他对喷后，差不多要和沙克打起来了

我真心觉得如果当年社交媒体就像现在这么发达，科比和乔丹可能会招致更多厌恶

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Raptors takeyababynoharambe 289 points 16 hours ago

I mean, I agree with the Wiggins comment, but tbh leaping ability is such small drop in the bucket in terms of “god given talent”

我同意大家对维金斯的不满，但老实讲他只是跳得高而已，远远谈不上巴特勒所谓的“上帝赋予的天赋”吧？

Jorge Garbajosa wikiman2001 250 points 15 hours ago

He does have the talent. He could be a superstar in the league but he doesn't seem to give a shit

猛龙加巴约萨球迷：维金斯是有天赋的，他本有机会成长为超级巨星，但他看起来满不在乎的样子。

Raptors fabrar 151 points 11 hours ago

Wiggins legit has the tools and the potential to be a Kobe-level player. Size, strength, speed, hops, he's got it all from a physical standpoint to be a transcendental 2-way player. In fact, we've seen flashes of it, albeit all too rarely, throughout his career. What he's missing is the heart, passion and killer mentality and those play a huuuuge role. If you don't care about being the best and don't put the effort in, you're not getting there no matter how physically gifted you are.

猛龙球迷：维金斯真心拥有可以成长为科比那种级别球星的各种天赋：身高，力量，速度，弹跳。从身体素质来看，他具备顶级攻防型球员的所有必要条件。但他缺乏的是大心脏、激情、杀手本能以及其他精神层面非常非常重要的元素。无论你的身体天赋有多顶级，如果你不想成为最好的球员，并且吊儿郎当不付出努力，那你永远都成不了大气。

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Lakers DudeWTH 1.0k points 16 hours ago edited 16 hours ago

If KAT and Wiggs played as hard as Butler, they'd be a playoff team

Edit: without needing Butler

湖人球迷：如果小唐和围巾打球和巴特勒一样努力，他们应该早就成为一支季后赛球队了。

补充：我的意思是，不需要巴特勒，就凭他俩就能进季后赛

Celtics sahsan10 293 points 16 hours ago

I mean...they were

凯尔特人球迷：弱弱地提醒。。上赛季他们进季后赛了

Lakers DudeWTH 373 points 16 hours ago

Yeah but without Butler

湖人球迷：没错。我是说即使没有巴特勒（他俩要是努力也足够进季后赛了）。

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James Worthy NaciremaBlack 2.6k points 16 hours ago

Am I being tough on him ? Yeah, that's who am I," he said. "I'm not the most talented coach in the league. Who is the most talented coach on our planet -- Pop. Who is the most god-gifted coach on our planet-Stevens.Who plays their players hardest? Me! I coach hard. I put their careers (on the line)every day"

湖人沃西球迷：“我是不是对他（巴特勒）太严格了？是的，这就是我的风格”，锡伯杜说，“我不是联盟中能力最强的教练。谁最有能力？波波；谁有上帝赋予的天赋？少帅斯蒂文斯；谁死草手下的球员最努力？我！我执教向来努力，我把这些球员的每一天都当作最后一天去对待。”

Bulls ClaymoresRevenge 322 points 16 hours ago

Today was made for meming and pasta. Thank you for the laugh

公牛球迷：今天注定是个神图和段子遍地开花的日子，谢谢你让我笑喷了。

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【帖子二】Woj推文：根据线人消息，森林狼队内赛进行到一半的时候，巴特勒朝总经理斯科特-雷登（Scott Layden）大喊：“你们tm需要我。没有我你们赢不了球”。巴特勒怼得队友和教练大都面面相觑哑口无言。无论从何种意义上来讲，巴特勒都统治了当时的森林狼训练馆。这个男人回来了。 - Woj

直播吧篮球比分188(「键盘侠」巴特勒横扫森林狼队内赛怼天怼地纯爷们？)

Spurs stevntiny 5.2k points 1 day ago

You’re right we can’t win without you which is why we will not trade you. -Thibs

马刺球迷：你说的没错。失去你我们没法赢球，所以我们死都不会交易你。—— 锡伯杜

Timberwolves ygduf 1.4k points 1 day ago

Hope he's prepared to average 48min/game.

森林狼球迷：希望巴特勒做好单赛季场均48分钟的准备。

Squalor- 1.0k points 1 day ago

If he dies, he dies. - Also Thibs

如果他死了，他就是死了。 —— 还是锡伯杜

Raptors intecknicolour 143 points 1 day ago

derrick rose cries somewhere.

猛龙球迷：罗斯听到这句话在抹泪。

Raptors A_Dachshund 324 points 1 day ago

It's going to be over 48 min/game. If a game ever goes to over time he might bring it up to 49 min/game.

猛龙球迷：场均上场时间一定会超过48分钟。你想如果有加时的话，赛季平均可能就是49分钟每场了。

Celtics 13143 185 points 1 day ago

Just like we never thought another player could average a triple double over the entire season, we never thought we'd see a player break Wilt's minutes played per game.

Thibs making history out here.

凯尔特人球迷：我们之前从未想过还能在今天看到一名球员拿到赛季场均三双。同样，我们也以为没有球员在今天能打破张伯伦的赛季场均上场时间。

锡伯杜可以做到。

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Giannis Antetokounmpo CaptainBananaEu 168 points 1 day ago

Idk but I know if he stays I am watching every single Timberwolves game this year.

雄鹿字母哥球迷：如果巴特勒留队，我可能会认真观看森林狼本赛季的每一场比赛。

rcolesworthy37 83 points 1 day ago

Tbh, if we fire Thibs and nab a Ty Lue like coach and just have Jimmy run the the show with 4 other players scared shitless of him on the court, it would be fun to watch for a bit. Probably wouldn’t work past 20 games, but it would be fun

老实讲，如果我们辞掉锡伯杜再撸来一个泰伦卢这样的教练，然后让巴特勒独自带队上场表演，留下其他4个队友在场上瑟瑟发抖，估计这比赛就很有看头了。虽然这样的球队想必支撑不过20场比赛，不过娱乐性肯定强

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Rockets rickypiedra 765 points 1 day ago

That's it, he's getting traded lmao, how would this team function in the regular season

火箭球迷：到此为止了，这么一来他铁定要被交易了，哈哈。这样的球队气氛，常规赛开打估计都一盘散沙吧。

bombingwinger 603 points 1 day ago

By falling in line. If Jimmy can turn up and do whatever he wants then he's clearly the lead dog.

这支球队会直线下坠的。不过如果巴特勒有机会领衔这支球队，并且可以为所欲为的话，他不仅不会走还很有可能成为头狼。

Pelicans imahsleep 721 points 1 day ago

Thibs is out, Jimmy in as coach, GM and a starter for the twolves who finish the year 82-0. Instead of tactful timeouts, Jimmy just calls timeouts to yell at Wiggins for his defensive breakdowns and low motor.

鹈鹕球迷：锡伯杜要下课了，巴特勒会身兼三职：主帅、总经理外加球队首发，他将带领森林狼以82胜0负完成本赛季的征程。巴特勒不会在暂停中布置任何战术，他叫暂停一般都是为了骂维金斯，骂他防守没精打采掉链子。

Bulls GunnarBomaye 163 points 1 day ago

And don’t forget yelling at KAT because he won’t stop stealing Jimmy’s rebounds

公牛球迷：别忘了暂停时巴特勒还会朝小唐咆哮，因为他老是从巴特勒手里偷篮板。

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Lakers YaBoiBeefCat 511 points 1 day ago

Butler: Kicks locker room door open "Who is ready to practice?" Rubs hands together

Thibs: Wipes sweat off forehead with a slice of pizza "Oh thank god. Jim, it is great to see you. I was worried when you didn't respond to any of my late night texts."

KAT: "Ay T, I thought I told you I wouldn't sign a contract unless this bum was gone."

Thibs: "Karl, practice starts in five minutes, we can talk about Andrew later."

KAT: "I'm not practicing then. You have the end of the day before I replace you with Flip's corpse."

Butler: "I'll be on the court, anyone who doesn't show up is the pussy I thought they were."

Rose: "Well I am going out, we men."

Wiggins: Holds cardboard cutout of Ricky Rubio in the corner

巴特勒：（踹开更衣室门，搓着双手说）“一起训练了，你们哪个准备好了？”

锡伯杜：（用手中一片披萨抹去了额头上的汗珠）“噢感谢老天，巴特勒，真高兴你能来。好几个晚上发你短信都不回，我担心得不行。”

唐：“嘿，老锡，我记得当时跟你说过的，如果这个垃圾不走，我不会和球队续约。”

锡伯杜：“唐唐，训练还有五分钟就开始了，我们等会再讨论维金斯去留的事情好不好”

唐：“那我今天就不练了，就给你一天的时间做决定。要不然你的帅位会被（编辑注：森林狼已故前主帅）桑德斯的尸体代替。”

巴特勒：“我等下会在球馆里等你们，不来的人我一律当做娘炮看。”

罗斯：“等下就来，哥们我们一起练。”

维金斯：（在角落瑟瑟发抖，手里拿着前队友卢比奥的纸板模型）

Raptors beerdude111 133 points 1 day ago

Wiggins: Holds cardboard cutout of Ricky Rubio in the corner

I'm dying.

At the same time, anyone ask Rubio how he feels about his former team going through all this drama?

猛龙球迷：维金斯：（在角落瑟瑟发抖，手里拿着前队友卢比奥的纸板模型）

哈哈，笑死我了。话说回来，前队友和老东家发生这么大风波，有人问过卢比奥的感受吗？

Jazz -jupa- 147 points 1 day ago

"Friendship ended with Andrew Wiggins. Now Donovan Mitchell is my best friend."

“我和维金斯的友谊到此为止。多诺万-米切尔现在是我最好的朋友。”

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notIsugarpie 188 points 1 day ago

I have this mental image of Jimmy going Super-Saiyan in practice, and Layden, KAT and Wiggins huddled together muttering to themselves: "there's no way his power level is that high."

To which Jimmy answers: this isn't even my final form!

我脑海中已经有了这么一副画面：巴特勒在训练中突然进入超级赛亚人状态，球队老板、唐斯和维金斯抱在一起瑟瑟发抖，自言自语道“不可能，他的小宇宙居然已经这么强了”。

对此，巴特勒冷笑：“这还不是我的最终形态！”。

abdiel0MG 18 points 1 day ago

This is the nba in anime version.

NBA动画版诞生了

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Raptors JamesHar_en 5.0k points 1 day ago

Woj is writing a fanfic holy

Woj正在撰写一篇史诗级同人小说

LeBron James newhampshiresmash 1.0k points 1 day ago

I can’t wait for the smut chapter

森林狼球迷：裤子已脱，就等咸湿章节了。

Hornets KeepItRealTV 1.2k points 1 day ago

"You fucking need me...", Jimmy whispered softly in his ear.

黄蜂球迷：巴特勒轻轻地在他耳边呢喃：“你tm的离不开我。。。”

Lakers Laker_Fan69 460 points 1 day ago

Thibs softly replies “We need each other...”

湖人球迷：锡伯杜绵软地回答：“我们互相离不开对方。。”

Stephen Curry thesnacks 380 points 1 day ago

Foreplay for a full 48 minutes, maybe even overtime.

勇士库里球迷：整整48分钟的前戏，也许还有加时。

vomrin 257 points 1 day ago

Foreplay for 82 games and then 1 unsatisfying round of playoffs

82场比赛作为前戏，最后以1轮疲软的季后赛草草了事

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Manu Ginobili samkunc1 7.6k points 1 day ago

Amin el Hassan just said on the Jump that he heard this isn’t all that happened, he also heard that Jimmy took the third stringers and beat the starters in scrimmage

马刺马努球迷：ESPN的一档节目里嘉宾说了他听到的版本，巴特勒和第三阵容组成了一支队，然后把首发打败了。

NBA zxc123zxc123 2.6k points 1 day ago

Demand trade and team doesn't trade you.

Go into practice and beat the starters with rookies.

At one point in a scrimmage, turn to GM Scott Layden and scream, "You (bleeping) need me. You can't win without me." Then leave teammates and coaches largely speechless. Finally, dominate the gym in every way. Show everyone you back.

PROFIT

1. 要求被交易，但球队不交易你。

2. 去训练场，带着新秀，打爆主力。

3. 在训练中间，对老板叫嚣“你tm的需要我，没有我你们赢不了球。”留下面面相觑的队友和教练。最后征服整个训练馆，告诉所有人你回来了。

4. 发财。

Bulls MundaneInternetGuy 1.2k points 1 day ago

Holy shit that's a straight up Michael Jordan move.

In Jordan`s rookie year, he came close to leaving practice after then-Bulls coach Kevin Loughery forced him to switch teams during a scrimmage. Same stakes, losers run extra. Jordan had led the White squad to a 7-2 lead in a game to 11 when Loughery put him on the Red team. Jordan protested vehemently, but Loughery prevailed. Like a man possessed, Jordan went on a tear and scored seven straight times in leading his team to an eventual 11-8 victory.

chicagotribune/news/ct-xpm-1987-10-28-8703210383-story.html

卧槽这简直就是乔丹的做派啊。“在乔丹的新秀赛季，有一次训练他差点撂挑子不干了。当时他被时任主帅要求临时换边，并且输了还要双倍折返跑。乔丹一开始是在白队，总分11分的比赛，他已经带领白队7-2领先。这时，主帅却把他换到了对面的红队。对此乔丹提出了强烈的抗议，但主帅还是坚持到底。结果，老流氓连得7分一举带领红队拿下胜利，总比分11-8。”

SweatyProgrammer 546 points 1 day ago

There are rumors that Jimmy is Jordan's son.

坊间传说，巴特勒是乔丹的儿子。

76ers betsyforhope 291 points 1 day ago

Have you ever seen Jordan with hair?

Straight up Jimmy clone

76人球迷：你看过乔丹有头发的模样么？

和巴特勒一毛一样。

Lakers ok_heh 328 points 1 day ago

I guess this qualifies as supporting evidence

湖人球迷：我想这张图应该是铁证如山了。

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