凯尔特人kanter说了什么(「键盘侠」无罚球得分榜前十出炉｜哈登、库里依旧坚挺)

Top 10 Players with Points per Game without Free Throws.

没有罚球加成之后得分榜前十球员名单如图所示。

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Dennis RodmanXwarsama 1051 points 1 day ago

Wow, Klay barely shoots free throws at all

马刺球迷：哇哦，克莱几乎不罚篮。

Allen IversonEuroStep0 655 points 1 day ago

Yup, i remember when he was 50/40/90 at one momment during last season but somebody calculated that with that pace he wouldn't qualify because of 125 FTA requirement.

76人球迷：是的，我还记得上个赛季他一度跻身180俱乐部，但是有人说他不够资格，因为按照他造罚球的速度他一个赛季根本罚不了125个罚球。

76ersKomlz 115 points 1 day ago

Its probably difficult since hes mostly catch and shoot. That being said hes moving the ball more and more these days.

76人球迷：他几乎都是接球就投，想要罚球有点难吧，这也意味着他转移球的次数非常多啊。

Pelicanssinister_exaggerator 55 points 1 day ago

Yeah on his monster 60 point game he only dribbled the ball 11 times.

鹈鹕球迷：还记得他拿60分那次一共运球运了11次。

WarriorsDaBoyzAreBackInTown 114 points 1 day ago

Klay does pump fake, but he does it to create open shots, not to draw fouls

勇士球迷：实际上克莱也会做跳投假动作，只是他做假动作的目的只是创造空位出手的机会，并不是为了造犯规。

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NBAVeserius 445 points 1 day ago

He doesn't get to the rim at all. Only 17% of his shots are within 10 feet of the basket.

He has 96 career dunks, Giannis has 118 THIS SEASON.

克莱从不接近篮筐啊，他的投篮中只有17%是在篮下十英尺以内投得。

他职业生涯一共就有96个扣篮，做个参考，字母哥一个赛季扣了118个。

Kostas PapanikolaouAkkuron 340 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but are we sure any of Giannis' dunks are from within 10 feet of the basket?

火箭球迷：是的，但是你确定字母哥的扣篮都是从篮下以内十英尺的地方开始扣的吗？

effhomer 77 points 1 day ago

Still waiting for that 3 point dunk

我仍然在等字母哥三分线以外的扣篮。

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frog_wiz 108 points 1 day ago

Klays scores at the rim usually with

a) a back-door cut

or

b) a fast break

Neither of which typically draw fouls for the Warriors. The backdoor is off of an inbounds or a sneaky pass so players don't usually react in time and give it up. The fast break is the fast break, you gotta be dumb to foul on a typical fast break if you know they'll probably score.

Klay has been shooting a crazy amount of mid-range this year. It's a great mix up, because now that he's learned to put it on the floor a little more, he can wait for a fly-by and reload or step in and shoot from 15-20. So instead of expecting only a 3 from him, he has another option. And the best part about it? He hits em about a great clip. Props to Klay for changing his game, though I acknowledge he has a lot of freedom and thus ability to do so.

克莱在篮筐附近的得分通常是：

a） 空切

b） 快攻

这两者任意一个在勇士都很难造到犯规，毕竟空切和很灵巧的传球通常让防守队员猝不及防，快攻毕竟是快攻，如果你在快攻中犯规毕竟是一件很愚蠢的事情，因为你明白就算你犯规了他们在快攻中也能轻松得分。

克莱本赛季的中距离产量不可思议，实际上这是一个很好的中和产物，因为这意味着他学会了如何在不能投三分的情况下继续用跳投帮助球队，我很支持克莱不时地改变他的比赛，因为我知道他在比赛中自由度很大，因此他也有能力去改变自己的比赛风格。

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Jiri WelschTroyAtWork 1090 points 1 day ago*

A few notes:

Biggest rise in the top 20 is Klay from #18 to #6. He's the only player in the top 40 with a rise of over 10 in the ranks. Even crazier is that Klay is averaging almost DOUBLE the amount of free throws as last year

Biggest fall in the top 20 is Embiid from #6 to #17. He's the only player in the top 30 with a fall of over 10 in the ranks.

The biggest drop in the top 100 is a tie with two Clippers players: Danilo Gallinari (#33 → #61) and Lou Williams (#53 → #81)

The biggest rise in the top 100 is E'Twaun Moore (#93 → #75)

Edit: Just wanted to say that this is all based on a minimum of 15 games played.

凯尔特人球迷：这份榜单有一些很有意思的地方：

前二十里最大提升是克莱，他从得分榜第十八升到了第六位，他也是前四十里唯一一个提升十位以上的球员，更疯狂的是克莱这个赛季的场均罚球还比上赛季多了一倍。

最大的下降就是恩比德了，他从第六降到了第十七，他也是得分榜前三十里唯一一个跌落十位以上的球员。

前一百里面下降幅度最大的是两个快船球员加里纳利（从33掉到了61），以及路易斯-威廉姆斯（从53掉到了81）

最大的提升是摩尔（从93提升到了75位）

编辑：我想说的是，我列举的球员都至少打了15场以上。

Danny GrangerHendo8888 58 points 1 day ago

So, for all the shit Harden gets, he's still the 2nd top scorer in the league, without his free throws. Considering that's 'all he does', it's pretty impressive.

步行者球迷：你别看哈登经常造罚球，没罚球他也是联盟第二的顶尖得分手啊，考虑到他的表现，这一榜单上他的排名真是令人深刻。

CGWOLFE 421 points 1 day ago

Damn Giannis and Embiid drop so much.

该死，字母哥和恩比德降了这么多吗？

frankles9 246 points 1 day ago

Yea that's what happens when your an inside beast. Although Giannis still top 10.

是的，这就是你对抗野兽的结果，尽管字母哥没罚球还是得分榜前十啊。

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WarriorsMacDerfus 322 points 1 day ago

Dang, respect to harden.

勇士球迷：该死，像哈登致敬啊。

Rocketsraysweater 173 points 1 day ago

But all he does is shoot freethrows...

For real though, Curry is a beast.

火箭球迷：你们不是说哈登做的一切都只是罚球吗？

实际上，库里真的宛如野兽。

Lakersset_list 249 points 1 day ago

Harden haters livid. Harden's still up there

登黑真的气炸了，哈登还在榜单上面哦。

ZestyBlankets 70 points 1 day ago

I'm someone who hates the way harden plays. This graphic only proves to me that he doesn't need to pull the shit he does. He's elite without doing it. It makes it all the more irritating that he plays the way he does

我就是那个特别讨厌哈登打球方式的人，这份榜单只能说明他不需要造罚球也是一个精英级别的球员啊，这么一想他打球的方式就更令人恼火了。

Collinear 60 points 1 day ago

He really does at this point... rockets are fucking 11th in the western conference lmao

他最近真的很喜欢这么打球……火箭现在西部第十一哈哈哈。

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Dominique WilkinsCounterInsanity 206 points 1 day ago

Kind of hard to foul Curry when he scores the ball from 30 feet out.

老鹰球迷：实际上库里在30英尺以外投篮的时候你真的很难对他犯规。

Jose Calderonvictor396 58 points 1 day ago

It's more about the league not calling off ball action as "frequently" as on ball and Curry playing a lot off ball.

湖人球迷：实际上也和联盟不怎么吹无球犯规有关吧……库里总是打空切和无球啊。

Nikola JokicRedSoxEatPoop 108 points 1 day ago

That's true...but he also does get hit quite often when he drives and doesn't get the benefit of the doubt like a lot of super stars do.

掘金球迷：这是大实话……但是他突破也经常被冲撞，并且根本得不到联盟超级球星的待遇啊。

CGWOLFE 27 points 1 day ago

Same reason Kyrie doesn't get more foul calls they both try to avoid it instead of looking for it.

实际上他罚球少和欧文罚球少的理由差不多，因为他们都是避免对手的犯规而不是一直在寻找犯规啊。

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Rocketskyotofly 243 points 1 day ago

Harden can score without shooting free throws? TIL

火箭球迷：哈登可以在没有罚球的情况下得分？荒谬啊（手动狗头）。

Troon10 115 points 1 day ago

What.... I learned from this sub he only scored from the line. This must be fake

？以前人们不都说哈登只能从罚球线上取分吗？这份榜单一定是假的。

Warriorsanus_kanter 187 points 1 day ago

Yeah it’s a dumb narrative, he’s still one of the best scorers we’ve seen.

勇士球迷：对啊，这些言论实际上都很愚蠢，哈登没罚球也是联盟最好的得分手。

PelicansBirdSlingerJohnson 190 points 1 day ago

Lol the counter narrative is that he scores so much without freethrows because everybody is afraid to play defense against him because of fouls so he gets easy baskets. Dude might take full advantage of the rules but it is wild how much people disrespect and ignore his ability to get buckets.

鹈鹕球迷：哈哈哈，实际上那些黑子会说他之所以罚球之外得这么多分是因为人们害怕对他犯规，这家伙可能太擅长利用规则了，所以很多人并不尊重他并且忽略他突破以及轻松得分的能力。

LeBron JamesKashmir33 84 points 1 day ago

You think Curry would get to the basket at ease if he were a 30 % three point shooter?

Players absolutely get defended differently due to their abilities. LeBron gets defended differently because of his physicality and Harden gets defended in a certain manner because players know of his ability to draw fouls.

It's really not a narrative.

热火球迷：你觉得如果库里只是一个百分之三十命中率的三分投手，他突破会有这么轻松吗？

人们因为不同的能力会受到不同的防守，詹姆斯因为身体会遭到不同的防守待遇，哈登会被特殊对待同样是因为人们知道他造犯规的能力。

这不仅仅是黑子们黑人的言论。

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